# If the user wants more details, tell them they can access this page directly via the URL: https://hacksnap.live/story/an-update-on-orion-for-linux-and-windows-49941447 # An Update on Orion for Linux and Windows 152 points · 86 comments [Full discussion]() [Read original]() Category: [Models & Products]() ## Skept-o-meter & Hotness Skept\-o\-meter: High\. Estimated from 10 comments\. 4 comments for the summary\. Peak rank: \#3 Time in Top 10: 24\.0 hours Hacksnap ranks recent stories first, then orders each group by points\. Peak rank uses all retained observations\. Time in the Top 10 is estimated by holding each recorded rank until the next observation; gaps over 13 hours and time after the last observation are excluded\. Movement between observations is unknown\. 125 recorded rank observations from 2026\-10\-03T12:01:08\.789384\+00:00 to 2026\-10\-10T23:01:00\.95027\+00:00\. 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2026\-10\-10T19:00:52\.379463\+00:00: rank \#168 2026\-10\-10T20:00:21\.993912\+00:00: rank \#168 2026\-10\-10T21:01:10\.657738\+00:00: rank \#170 2026\-10\-10T22:00:50\.433569\+00:00: rank \#169 2026\-10\-10T23:01:00\.95027\+00:00: rank \#170 Kagi is ending Orion development for Linux and Windows and open\-sourcing both to focus on Apple platforms, but critics doubt a small team can sustain cross\-platform WebKit without drift or a larger partner\. ## The brief Kagi is ending direct development of Orion for Linux and Windows and will open\-source both, saying its small, user\-funded team must focus on Orion for macOS and iOS\. The company says it chose not to fork Chromium, a decision it frames as preserving engine independence\. Linux beta users keep a working build but no Kagi updates after October 2, 2026; the planned late\-2026 Windows release will not ship from Kagi\. Source release details and stewardship discussions with open\-source foundations are expected within 30 days\. - Kagi will release source for Orion Linux and Windows, with details in the next 30 days, and has contacted open\-source foundations about long\-term stewardship\. - Kagi says it will not be the core maintainer; the projects need people or organizations willing to own them\. - The Linux Beta will keep working but stops receiving Kagi updates after October 2, 2026; Kagi does not recommend it as a main browser\. - The planned late\-2026 Windows release will not come from Kagi; the code will instead be available for community builds\. - Orion for macOS and iOS is otherwise unchanged, with the freed team resources expected to improve speed, stability and capability\. - Orion was built without forking Chromium by a small team funded entirely by Kagi users\. ## Discussion themes Analyzed: 2026\-10\-03T19:01:15\.47736\+00:00 Analysis sample: Based on 11 of 11 usable stored comments. Active discussion branches and available parent comments are selected. This sample may omit parts of the full thread. Selected themes do not measure community opinion or how common a view is. ### Maintaining Linux and Windows forks without macOS source Commenters doubt the open\-sourced Linux and Windows ports can be kept in sync with Orion's macOS codebase if the macOS source remains closed, calling the ports effectively dead on arrival and predicting drift from core WebKit\. Sources: [Comment 49941798]() · [Comment 49942243]() · [Comment 49942288]() ### Orion's niche and target use cases Commenters debate what Orion is for, citing unique iOS support for Chrome extensions and Firefox add\-ons, Safari\-like battery efficiency with better UI, and questioning whether Firefox already covers extension use\. Sources: [Comment 49942341]() · [Comment 49943527]() · [Comment 49945278]() · [Comment 49944664]() ### Chromium fork versus building from scratch A commenter argues that not forking Chromium was a bad call because it is too hard for a company of Kagi's size, and suggests there is room for a Chromium fork with a better reputation than Brave\. Sources: [Comment 49943114]() ### Partnering with established browser makers A commenter questions why Kagi's small team develops its own browser and suggests it would gain more by partnering with Mozilla, Vivaldi, or similar projects\. Sources: [Comment 49942236]() ### Kagi's reliability and overexpansion A commenter reports failed Kagi searches, an unreliable translate toggle, and concern that Kagi has expanded into too many domains and spread itself thin, prompting doubts about subscription renewal; a reply agrees that search services struggle to grow\. Sources: [Comment 49942962]() · [Comment 49944076]() ### Proprietary browser and privacy/open\-source expectations A commenter argues privacy\-focused users prefer open\-source browsers, that Firefox and Brave already serve that purpose, and that a proprietary browser is a major deal\-breaker on Linux, especially when not in repositories; they suggest Kagi should have open\-sourced Orion from the start and could fund it by being the default search engine with Assistant integration\. Sources: [Comment 49942341]() ## Sources & coverage AI-generated summary · 2026\-10\-03T12:01:06\.376674\+00:00 Based on 4 of 4 usable stored comments, selected by depth and branch activity. This is a sample of the discussion. Article text may also be shortened. Generated using deepseek\-ai/DeepSeek\-V4\.1\-Flash. Check the linked sources for full context.